HATE CRIMES

GUEST · Guest

Are the pro-Nazi posts we are seeing on this site dis-similar to hate crimes and subject to investigation and prosecution. When someone spray paints hate messages on someones car they are arrested for it.

I understand freedom of speach and thats fine if they want to post it on there own web sites, but doing it here I think is a crime and their IP should be recorded and reported to some for of law enforcement in their area.

Guest · Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 11:26 pm Post subject:

No. You are retarded.

GUEST · Guest

actually if you record the IP you could report it to their ISP, since it is against most ISP's policies and they will loose their privledge to use the internet through them.

Joseph · Guest

Heres some helpfull info from http://www.partnersagainsthate.org/

Issue/Question:
Can hate crime laws be used against hate on the Internet?

Suggested Response:
If a person’s use of the Internet rises to the level of criminal conduct, it may subject the perpetrator to an enhanced sentence under a State's hate crime laws. Currently, 40 States and the District of Columbia have such laws in place. The criminal's sentence may be more severe if the prosecution can prove that he or she intentionally selected the victim based on his or her race, nationality, religion, gender, or sexual orientation

Guest · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:08 am Post subject:

Some of the hatred posts also put the link to www.myg0t.com
so it may be possible to first of all send the administrators an email about the matter, and also report the site to the company hosting it.

reporter · Guest

I wonder if there is a place to simply report this- perhaps with an IP, a description and proof and let the appropriate people take care of this.

yonah · Star Poster Joined: Jun 18, 2004 Posts: 57

Last time I looked, it isnt a crime to post - even hateful vitriol - on a public forum. Granted, the moderators can remove whatever posts they want if they or the forum's users deem it offensive, but if the person posting hate messages did so by using the tools open to all of us, it isn't really a crime.

If he took over the Jewcentral.com homepage and replaced it with a picture of an oven, that would be altogether different.

heshy · Star Poster Joined: Sep 06, 2002 Posts: 59

Yonah,

I see what you're saying but I doubt it's so clear cut. For example, if someone walked into a synogague (church etc) and talked about something- he'd be ok. If he started talking about hate and how he wanted to kill all the congregants- that should be a problem.

Add further that a web sites' forum may have a code of conduct and there could be a case.

yonah · Star Poster Joined: Jun 18, 2004 Posts: 57

Heshy, let me clarify:

Assuming that the user didn't have to acknowledge the use policy upon registration and/or the usage policy didn't include the specific elements he posted, he hasn't committed a crime by posting hate speech unless that speech can be construed as incitement.

So for example, if someone put out a post saying 'I am going to kill all of the (place expletitives here) Jews on this forum' - then I would get the police involved as he has made threats. But someone coming on to a public forum and saying that 'All Jews are bloodsuckers...' isn't really a hate crime.

At the very least, he hasn't committed a crime by posting, but rather by the content of his post.

StudentToTruth · Newbie Joined: Feb 21, 2005 Posts: 5

I think someone already mentioned that most ISP's have a policy in place that prohibits certain activities, and these type of posts usually are enough for an ISP to cancel their service. The adminstrators of this site would need to record the IP address and some record of the posts made. The IP number will allow you to find out who their service is through. Then contact the ISP, find out what policies are in place, and make a report.

As far as from any site they may have linked in the post, doesn't mean they are affiliated with said URL. On the other hand if the site contains similar content, it may be in violation of the host's policies. And similar action can take place as in dealing with the ISP.

yonah · Star Poster Joined: Jun 18, 2004 Posts: 57

jewcentral · Site Admin Joined: Oct 31, 2002 Posts: 74

Thanks for all your comments, they will all be considered as we move forward. For security issues I will not comment about the current situation but you can always contact us via email with more specifics.

The process described above (google bombing) can become a serious issue. See:
http://www.sethf.com/anticensorware/google/jew-watch.php

JewCentral will delete all attempts to google bomb, but appropriate links are always accepted. Also google has introduced a new attribute (rel="nofollow") to prevent this:

http://www.google.com/googleblog/2005/01/preventing-comment-spam.html

OffendedGuy · Guest

I found a site full of hate-crimes against Jews at the following site:

http:// lilith.ongakunoko.com/tomandcleavage/index.htm

I didn't want to write it as a link so google doesnt check it out.

What can we do about getting rid of it? I haven't been able to find a contact name or number on the server it is on.

I just wish hate crimes would stop! Sad

Guest · Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 10:07 pm Post subject:

tomandcleavage - i went to school with them

Guest · Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:34 am Post subject: